{ "schema_version": "1.3", "table_size": 6, "id": "8c5c-turn-jam", "format": "multi_option", "free": true, "rebuild": "v2", "provenance_class": "dealt_hand", "updated_at": "2026-08-08T00:00:00Z", "source": { "session_id": "RiverBluffsTypesandValueHands", "verdict_audio": "quiz/audio/8c5c-turn-jam.m4a", "lesson_slug": null, "hand_record": { "lane": "TAPE_SKELETON", "played": "A real hand: Tyler's own 'heads up pot I played yesterday' (s932), reviewed in-session via a PioSOLVER replication he built live because PokerTracker crashed (s933) — there is no replayer or hand number anywhere in the window.", "hand_id": null, "stake": { "source": "NONE", "usd_per_bb": null, "note": "bb-only fixture. PokerTracker crashed (s933); no table screen, title bar or spoken stake exists for this hand. s945's 'seven dollars' is an EV remark, not a stake quote — no dollar figure ships anywhere (G2)." }, "chips_to_bb": "100 chips = 1 bb, per the PioViewer status line 'Exploitable for 0.01 bb / 100 hands (bb size = 100)' (frame t=4160). All displayed bb = sim chips / 100 rounded to 0.1 (max drift 0.04 bb: 1374->13.7, 907->9.1, 412->4.1, 9338->93.4, 8431->84.3).", "frames": [ "t=4145 (scratchpad dh1/8c5c-turn-jam/frames/f_4145.png) — Skype screen-share handoff (Eric stops sharing); negative-scan anchor: no replayer before or after", "t=4160 (f_4160.png) — PioViewer 2.0.7.21 tree-build tab. Title bar: 'C:\\Users\\Tyler\\Dropbox\\Poker\\PIOSolverSims\\BTvsBBwithPoolData\\TurnDoubleBarrel\\Td9c4c7d.cfr - PioViewer 2.0.7.21'. Board field (typed text): 'Td 9c 4c 7d'. Starting Pot: 1374. Effective Stacks: 9338. Flop IP Bet sizes: 75. Turn IP Bet sizes: 66. Status: 'Exploitable for 0.01 bb / 100 hands (bb size = 100)'. Log: 'Tree loaded from ...\\TurnDoubleBarrel\\Td9c4c7d.cfr'", "t=4210 and t=4216 (f_4210.png, f_4216.png, on screen across the verdict words w10505-10522) — 'OOP Decision: PIO_CFR', node r:0:c:b907, 'Pot: 0 907 1374 (2281) Starting Stacks:9338', ribbon 'Root | CHECK | BET 907 (66%) | RAISE 9338 (264.5%) / RAISE 4095 (100%) / RAISE 3310 (75.4%) / RAISE 2501 (50%) / CALL / FOLD'. Combo panel: 8c5c is the only 85 combo in the OOP range; its cells read RAISE 264.5% 314.7 / RAISE 100% 286.2 / RAISE 75.4% 314.7 / RAISE 50% 304.0 / CALL 243.9 / FOLD 0.0", "t=4254 (f_4254.png, on screen across s952) — 'IP Decision', node r:0:c:b907:b9338, 'Pot: 9338 907 1374 (11619)', header 'CALL 39.3 combos 30.11% | FOLD 86.0 combos 69.89%'", "t=4288 (f_4288.png, during s958 '...this is 9 into 13') — same OOP node r:0:c:b907 still up, combo panel on Ac8c" ], "log_verbatim": [ "TITLE BAR: C:\\Users\\Tyler\\Dropbox\\Poker\\PIOSolverSims\\BTvsBBwithPoolData\\TurnDoubleBarrel\\Td9c4c7d.cfr - PioViewer 2.0.7.21", "TREE PARAMS: Board 'Td 9c 4c 7d' | Starting Pot: 1374 | Effective Stacks: 9338 | Flop IP Bet sizes: 75 | Turn IP Bet sizes: 66 | 'Exploitable for 0.01 bb / 100 hands (bb size = 100)'", "TURN NODE (hero): OOP Decision r:0:c:b907 | Pot: 0 907 1374 (2281) Starting Stacks:9338 | BET 907 (66%) | RAISE 9338 (264.5%)", "HERO COMBO 8c5c: RAISE 264.5% -> 314.7 | CALL -> 243.9 | FOLD -> 0.0 (chips)", "VILLAIN RESPONSE r:0:c:b907:b9338: CALL 39.3 combos 30.11% | FOLD 86.0 combos 69.89%" ], "spoken_skeleton": [ {"fact": "real hand, heads-up pot, played yesterday", "sids": [932]}, {"fact": "big blind (hero) versus button", "sids": [933]}, {"fact": "hero holds 8c5c ('eight five of clubs', spoken twice)", "sids": [933, 935]}, {"fact": "flop Td 9c 4c ('ten nine four two clubs ten of diamonds')", "sids": [934]}, {"fact": "button bets three quarters pot on the flop", "sids": [933, 934]}, {"fact": "hero check-calls flop; button bets turn", "sids": [936]}, {"fact": "turn price: 'this is 9 into 13' (sim exact: 907 into 1374)", "sids": [958]}, {"fact": "turn texture: 'two flush draws out the three straight'", "sids": [940]}, {"fact": "in game Tyler flatted the turn and counts it a mistake", "sids": [941, 945]}, {"fact": "verdict: 8c5c 'just goes all in for like 93 big ones'", "sids": [942, 943]}, {"fact": "mechanism: villain must fold the majority of better flush draws — all ace-high flush draws he bet except those with straight draws and pairs", "sids": [951, 952]}, {"fact": "villain's solver response is to call 30 percent (not displayed or aired)", "sids": [955]} ], "sim_linkage": "Six independent cross-checks tie the on-screen sim to the spoken hand: folder BTvsBBwithPoolData = 'big blind versus button' (s933); TurnDoubleBarrel = bet flop, bet turn (s933/s936); typed Board 'Td 9c 4c' = 'ten nine four two clubs ten of diamonds' (s934); Flop IP 75 = 'three quarters pot' (s934); turn 907 into 1374 = 'this is 9 into 13' (s958); RAISE 9338 = 93.4 bb = 'like 93 big ones' (s943).", "turn_card_source": "7d is typed text in Tyler's own Board field and the .cfr filename (frame t=4160) — never spoken. Independently corroborated at t=4410 by Tyler's own bar chart titled 'Turn Checkraise Value Td 9c 4c 7d' (a second, separately-authored pixel source; verifier frame dh1/8c5c-turn-jam/f4410.jpg, 2026-08-08). Also corroborated by s940's texture read ('two flush draws out the three straight'), which is true of Td 9c 4c 7d and false of the flop alone, and which only a DIAMOND 7 satisfies (second flush draw + the 7-9-T three-straight). Never-spoken status disclosed in unverifiable_claims.", "negative_scan": "t=4145 is Skype (share handoff); from t=4157 the screen is PioViewer continuously through t>4300 (frames 4160/4210/4216/4254/4288). PokerTracker crashed (s933) — no replayer for this hand exists in the session." } }, "context": "CASH GAME · BTN vs BB · 100 BB EFFECTIVE", "hero": { "pos": "BB", "cards": [ "8c", "5c" ], "stack_bb": 93.4, "avatar": "lono_ghoul" }, "seats": [ { "pos": "UTG", "avatar": "ghoul_4846", "folded": true }, { "pos": "HJ", "avatar": "ghoul_5135", "folded": true }, { "pos": "CO", "avatar": "ghoul_3903", "folded": true }, { "pos": "BTN", "avatar": "ghoul_242", "stack_bb": 84.3, "villain": true, "button": true }, { "pos": "SB", "avatar": "ghoul_3554", "folded": true } ], "streets": [ { "name": "preflop", "actions": [ { "pos": "UTG", "act": "fold" }, { "pos": "HJ", "act": "fold" }, { "pos": "CO", "act": "fold" }, { "pos": "BTN", "act": "open", "to_bb": 2.5 }, { "pos": "SB", "act": "fold" }, { "pos": "hero", "act": "call" } ], "pot_bb": 5.5 }, { "name": "flop", "board": [ "Td", "9c", "4c" ], "actions": [ { "pos": "hero", "act": "check" }, { "pos": "BTN", "act": "bet", "to_bb": 4.1 }, { "pos": "hero", "act": "call" } ], "pot_bb": 13.7 }, { "name": "turn", "board": [ "Td", "9c", "4c", "7d" ], "actions": [ { "pos": "hero", "act": "check" }, { "pos": "BTN", "act": "bet", "to_bb": 9.1 } ] } ], "prompt": "8♣5♣ · FLUSH DRAW + GUTSHOT — JAM, CALL OR FOLD?", "pot_bb": 22.8, "options": [ { "id": "jam", "label": "JAM" }, { "id": "call", "label": "CALL" }, { "id": "fold", "label": "FOLD" } ], "correct": "jam", "option_feedback": { "jam": "Correct — this is the jam Tyler found when he checked the hand afterwards: eight-five of clubs just goes all in, for like 93 big ones. The shove makes the button fold the majority of better flush draws — every ace-high flush draw he bet, except the ones that come with straight draws and pairs.", "call": "What Tyler actually did in game — and he counts it a mistake once he ran it: flatting keeps every better flush draw in against you, and eight-five of clubs is never good at showdown unimproved. The jam was worth about three-quarters of a big blind over the flat at equilibrium.", "fold": "Far too weak — you hold a live flush draw plus a gutshot to the six, and this hand does not want to surrender that equity. It wants to jam and make the better draws fold." }, "verdict_text": "It turns out eight-five of clubs here just goes all in — for like 93 big ones. He has to fold all the ace-high flush draws he bet, except for the ones with the straight draws and pairs.", "principle": "A weak flush draw jams the turn to fold out the better draws, rather than flat with a hand that is never good at showdown.", "concept": "weak-draw-jam-folds-better", "concepts_secondary": [], "topic": "semi-bluffing", "difficulty": 4, "aired_transcript": "So it turns out, E5 of clubs here just goes all in. For like 93 big blinds. In fact, he has to fold all the a-side flush draws he bet except for the ones with the straight draws of the pair.", "aired_transcript_note": "Verbatim small.en re-ASR of quiz/audio/8c5c-turn-jam.m4a (13.1s, beats w10505-10522 + s952, re-run 2026-08-08). 'E5' = 'eight five' (tape word w10509 conf 0.03), 'a-side' = 'ace-high', '93 big blinds' = w10520-10522 '93 big ones' — same audio, ASR variants only. No board cards, no prices, no percentages aired.", "pct_provenance": {}, "size_claims": { "three-quarters pot": { "street": "flop", "actor": "BTN", "pct_of_pot": 75.0, "source": "spoken s934 'the button bet three quarters pot'; sim frame t=4160 'Flop IP Bet sizes: 75' (412 chips into 550). Not displayed as a size word — recorded because it sources the 4.1 bb flop bet." } }, "claims": [ { "text": "goes all in for like 93 big ones", "lhs": "hero's jam at r:0:c:b907", "op": "=", "rhs": "RAISE 9338 chips = 93.4 bb, hero's whole remaining stack", "source": "frames t=4210/t=4216 ribbon 'RAISE 9338 (264.5%)' + 'Starting Stacks:9338'; spoken s943" }, { "text": "worth about three-quarters of a big blind over the flat at equilibrium", "lhs": "EV(jam) - EV(call) for 8c5c at r:0:c:b907", "op": "=", "rhs": "314.7 - 243.9 = 70.8 chips = 0.71 bb", "source": "frame t=4216 combo panel (8c5c: RAISE 264.5% 314.7, CALL 243.9); Tyler's own pixel-matching figure at s983 'three quarters of a big blind' (his earlier s945 'a full extra blind' rounds the same 0.71 bb up and is not displayed)" }, { "text": "fold the majority of better flush draws / all the ace-high flush draws he bet except the ones with straight draws and pairs", "lhs": "villain's solver response to the jam at r:0:c:b907:b9338", "op": "=", "rhs": "FOLD 86.0 combos (69.89%) vs CALL 39.3 combos (30.11%)", "source": "frame t=4254 node header; spoken s951-s952 (s955 'supposed to call 30 percent' matches the 30.11% header; the figure is not displayed or aired)" }, { "text": "preflop: BTN opens to 2.5 bb (displayed)", "lhs": "unique standard preflop unwind of the sim's own numbers", "op": "=", "rhs": "open 250 + BB call 250 + 50 dead SB = 550-chip pot; 550 + 2 x 412 (75% flop bet) = 1374 = the sim's turn Starting Pot; 10000 - 250 - 412 = 9338 = the sim's Effective Stacks — i.e. 100 bb stacks and a 2.5x open are forced together", "source": "frame t=4160 tree params; blinds structure (0.5 bb dead SB) is the standard assumption, disclosed in unverifiable_claims" }, { "text": "turn price 9.1 into 13.7", "lhs": "BTN turn barrel", "op": "=", "rhs": "907 chips into 1374 (66%)", "source": "frames t=4210/4216 'Pot: 0 907 1374 (2281)' + 'BET 907 (66%)'; spoken s958 'this is 9 into 13'" } ], "unverifiable_claims": [ "The turn card 7♦ is never spoken on tape. It exists as typed text in Tyler's own sim of this hand (Board field 'Td 9c 4c 7d' and the filename Td9c4c7d.cfr, frame t=4160), built minutes after he describes the hand; s940's 'two flush draws out the three straight' corroborates a diamond 7 but is not an independent recitation of the card.", "The real table's stack depths and the 2.5 bb open are the sim's parameters and their unique standard unwind (see claims), not spoken facts and not table pixels — PokerTracker crashed (s933), so no record of the live table exists.", "Table size unknown: only 'heads up pot' (s932) and 'big blind versus button' (s933) are spoken; the 6-max ring is disclosed staging." ], "cosmetic_invention": [ "The 6-max ring and which non-blind seats exist and fold (UTG/HJ/CO). Spoken facts fix only that the pot is heads-up, BB vs BTN (s932-s933). NOTE: the SB fold itself is NOT cosmetic — a folded 0.5 bb small blind is forced by the sim's 550-chip preflop pot (claims: 250+250+50), so a blind seat that folds must exist; only the extra ring seats are staging.", "Seat avatars (ghoul_4846 / ghoul_5135 / ghoul_3903 / ghoul_242 / ghoul_3554, hero lono_ghoul). Art only.", "The villain seat carries no name or read — Tyler calls him only 'the guy' (s933) and states no read on tape; the prior fixture's invented 'REG' tag is removed and the site renders its bare VILLAIN fallback.", "Hero and board suits are NOT cosmetic here: 'eight five of clubs' is spoken twice (s933, s935) and the flop's 'two clubs, ten of diamonds' is spoken (s934) — they are load-bearing for the flush-draw lesson and sourced, not invented." ], "decision": { "pot_settled_bb": 13.7, "bets": { "BTN": 9.1 } } }